Not sure if making a recording is illegal, but it certainly is in poor taste by Greene and his friends. Every single person I know that has met him has said the same thing "total creep"
I'm not sure why you are even dealing with this. Why isn't your legal counsel dealing with it instead. Your lawyers here in the US and your legal representation in Canada should be taking care of this for you!
You are friends with Gary Fong. He has had to deal with a lot of this stuff so talk to him. Lawyer up and sue their asses. I'm not usually a big fan of the legal route but this is clearly a time to sue rather than just appeal to the hearts and minds of these people.
How sad! My only comment is to his reference of your "sales Pitch" I've been to your show and YES, you did tell us about your products which were more informative then a "sales pitch" and things I did not know, I'm glad you did!
I've been to shows where people "push" their agenda and this was not the case.
I just find this all so sad and very unprofessional on their part.
Sorry for all this mess in Canada. It should not be a reflection on Canadians, and the photographers who attended the seminar.
One quick way to get the video down is to contact the provider and explain you did not give your permission for that.
I don't know if you signed an agreement with the duo, if so, I would see if it stipulated anything about taping the event, and how it should be handled afterwards.
Suing someone in Canada, unfortunately, does not go through the same process as in the US where anyone can sue anyone for large sums of money. Usually, cases are accepted or rejected on its own merit, and may never get to trial.
We do have a system of "Small claims court", but that is limited to an amount below $10k, and you can lose a lot of time traveling to court to make your point.
The best is to get the clip off the site, if not, get a canadian lawyer.
There was not any agreement signed and I would certainly never give them permission to do this... We're trying to get it removed from the website but that's a hassle as well.
Thanks for your help and if you have any suggestions of Canadian attorneys please let me know.
David, i know you can handle this because god for some reason placed all these mis problems in your life, I am sorry abotu the confrenece thign and this seems like its bad year for you BUT...you shoot nice weddings, have tons of support here - i do belive you have a pretty girlfriend, so think of this as satans attack back on ya, when ever something good is present so is he, take carre the god will pull you out of this, have faith David.
I've sent a message to Vandermode directly from the site, politely asking him to remove the clip. I've also left a message on the Craft your success Facebook forum. However, I know that a lot of messages have been censored in the past under the excuse of that "being a positive site".
Some people are still waiting for an answer about getting their money back. The official excuse from the two, is that they are waiting for legal counsel on whether to pay people back or not. I don't know. How long could that take? Even if it was written on the bill that there were no reimbursements or that they could change speakers at a moment's notice, just for the sake of customer allegiance, I would have reimbursed those who felt they were mislead, and did not attend.
If after a couple of days, the clip is still on, and no answer from Vandermode, I'll look into giving you some links to attorneys who could help you with this.
Being that I paid for a seminar in Ottawa and it was cancelled but no refund was given it would be nice to see this video DJ. But I have an idea how about you send me a free DVD copy of your tour which I'm sure was pretty much the same content. So here's my email and feel free to contact me via email for the mailing info jchartra@hotmail.com
Thanks a lot David I'd rather not give you my address on this link so could you send me an email at jchartra@hotmail.com and I'll send you my info again thanks.
Me, you, Mike... this is what brazilian jiu-jitsu was made for!!!
Just kidding. Dude, I'm almost glad this came out. It should prove to EVERYONE that these dudes were dodgy as can be. This incriminates them even more.
I've only heard snippets of what's going on, but this guy sounds like a serious prick. Who are these people and why are they out to screw with you? I hope everything works out, let us know what happens.
It was in poor taste of this Andre to post the video, but why is everyone assuming that this was Davide Greene and Michael Anderson? They are both professionals, and I know Greene fairly well. He would most definitely not do something like this. This video is not their fault.
I really makes me laugh the way you have helped this Vandermonde to make everybody see the video by posting this, David. It doesn't seem very clever, don't you think?
When I went to the "Toronto" Seminar the first thing I noticed was the camera set up in the corner. Being the clever businessman you are (and I think you are), why wouldn't you ask them to put the video camera away or make sure no body was behind it. I would think that would be in your best interest.
I choose not to watch it because I don't like any bootlegged stuff.
I'd love to get a copy of the DVD David. I attended in Winnipeg. I had no idea what was going on until I had already drove an hour to attend. heatherlassell at shaw.ca is my e-mail
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Not sure if making a recording is illegal, but it certainly is in poor taste by Greene and his friends. Every single person I know that has met him has said the same thing "total creep"
Of course it's illegal. Very similar to trying to record a boot leg video in a movie theater.
What comes around goes around. Just keep your head up DJ, keep doing what your doing, and let God take care of the rest.
Don't worry about what you cannot control.
I'm not sure why you are even dealing with this. Why isn't your legal counsel dealing with it instead. Your lawyers here in the US and your legal representation in Canada should be taking care of this for you!
You are friends with Gary Fong. He has had to deal with a lot of this stuff so talk to him. Lawyer up and sue their asses. I'm not usually a big fan of the legal route but this is clearly a time to sue rather than just appeal to the hearts and minds of these people.
Call your lawyer, and pray for your enemies.
How sad! My only comment is to his reference of your "sales Pitch" I've been to your show and YES, you did tell us about your products which were more informative then a "sales pitch" and things I did not know, I'm glad you did!
I've been to shows where people "push" their agenda and this was not the case.
I just find this all so sad and very unprofessional on their part.
Be Strong DJ,
Lisa B
Creations Photography
Sorry for all this mess in Canada. It should not be a reflection on Canadians, and the photographers who attended the seminar.
One quick way to get the video down is to contact the provider and explain you did not give your permission for that.
I don't know if you signed an agreement with the duo, if so, I would see if it stipulated anything about taping the event, and how it should be handled afterwards.
Suing someone in Canada, unfortunately, does not go through the same process as in the US where anyone can sue anyone for large sums of money. Usually, cases are accepted or rejected on its own merit, and may never get to trial.
We do have a system of "Small claims court", but that is limited to an amount below $10k, and you can lose a lot of time traveling to court to make your point.
The best is to get the clip off the site, if not, get a canadian lawyer.
Thanks Richard,
There was not any agreement signed and I would certainly never give them permission to do this... We're trying to get it removed from the website but that's a hassle as well.
Thanks for your help and if you have any suggestions of Canadian attorneys please let me know.
Cheers,
DJ
David, i know you can handle this because god for some reason placed all these mis problems in your life, I am sorry abotu the confrenece thign and this seems like its bad year for you BUT...you shoot nice weddings, have tons of support here - i do belive you have a pretty girlfriend, so think of this as satans attack back on ya, when ever something good is present so is he, take carre the god will pull you out of this, have faith David.
I've sent a message to Vandermode directly from the site, politely asking him to remove the clip. I've also left a message on the Craft your success Facebook forum. However, I know that a lot of messages have been censored in the past under the excuse of that "being a positive site".
Some people are still waiting for an answer about getting their money back. The official excuse from the two, is that they are waiting for legal counsel on whether to pay people back or not. I don't know. How long could that take? Even if it was written on the bill that there were no reimbursements or that they could change speakers at a moment's notice, just for the sake of customer allegiance, I would have reimbursed those who felt they were mislead, and did not attend.
If after a couple of days, the clip is still on, and no answer from Vandermode, I'll look into giving you some links to attorneys who could help you with this.
Being that I paid for a seminar in Ottawa and it was cancelled but no refund was given it would be nice to see this video DJ. But I have an idea how about you send me a free DVD copy of your tour which I'm sure was pretty much the same content. So here's my email and feel free to contact me via email for the mailing info jchartra@hotmail.com
Wow! They didn't give you guys a refund for Ottawa! These guys are unreal.
I'll be happy to get you a copy of the FTS video.
Thanks a lot David I'd rather not give you my address on this link so could you send me an email at jchartra@hotmail.com and I'll send you my info again thanks.
Hey Jean,
We are just finishing editing the video and then we'll send you a digital download of it so you won't have to worry about shipping or anything.
Rock on!
Thanks I'll keep in touch.
I didn't see the original post but this guy doesn't sound too professional at all. I hope the video is removed soon & that you are able to find Andre.
You o your attorney should be able to submit a dmca takedown notice pretty easily. Sites like Vimeo are generally pretty good about complying.
Me, you, Mike... this is what brazilian jiu-jitsu was made for!!!
Just kidding. Dude, I'm almost glad this came out. It should prove to EVERYONE that these dudes were dodgy as can be. This incriminates them even more.
I've only heard snippets of what's going on, but this guy sounds like a serious prick. Who are these people and why are they out to screw with you? I hope everything works out, let us know what happens.
It was in poor taste of this Andre to post the video, but why is everyone assuming that this was Davide Greene and Michael Anderson? They are both professionals, and I know Greene fairly well. He would most definitely not do something like this. This video is not their fault.
Hey Nancy, I think that Davide recorded this video. :(
Since you know him will you ask him if this is the video he recorded and if so why he is distributing it.
Hey DJ: I hope you got my PM on OSP with the info. Hope it helps and these guys will get what they deserve.
I really makes me laugh the way you have helped this Vandermonde to make everybody see the video by posting this, David. It doesn't seem very clever, don't you think?
sorry things are so hard for you right now... :-(
i'm so glad this happened to DJ and not someone else, he most definitely deserves it.
When I went to the "Toronto" Seminar the first thing I noticed was the camera set up in the corner. Being the clever businessman you are (and I think you are), why wouldn't you ask them to put the video camera away or make sure no body was behind it. I would think that would be in your best interest.
I choose not to watch it because I don't like any bootlegged stuff.
I'd love to get a copy of the DVD David. I attended in Winnipeg. I had no idea what was going on until I had already drove an hour to attend.
heatherlassell at shaw.ca
is my e-mail
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